WHICH AIRLINE IS YOUR FAVORITE TO COLLECT

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WHICH AIRLINE IS YOUR FAVORITE TO COLLECT? My answer is an easy one. They weren't the biggest, the best, most successful, and sometimes seemed nearly pathetic, but I still love to collect items from LAKE CENTRAL AIRLINES. I guess it figures since I grew up in the Great Lakes region, and Lake Central was one of the regional carriers that served Cleveland Hopkins Airport. The other three regionals included North Central, Mohawk and Allegheny. Watching them was a diversion from the dominate carriers at CLE like United, American, and Northwest. As a kid my only income was from my newspaper route, and much of the money I earned went out to Lake Central. My sister lived near the Akron/Canton airport (CAK). I would save up the $6.00 fare to ride a DC-3 from CLE to CAK. I didn't need to go, I just loved to fly in airliners. Sometimes I'd get a Convair 340, and once even a Nord 262. If anyone in my family went along for the ride their fare was a thrifty $4.60. At that price I could get off the CLE spectator deck and on to a real airliner. I remember those 20 minute flights and the sights along the way. One time we flew directly over Akron, Ohio's Goodyear Air-dock, but no blimps outside that day. I know a few things about Lake Central, but if you can add or correct anything let me know. Please remember to add your comments about an airline that you like to collect too! Don't feel you need to be as long winded as I because any feedback will be appreciated. Or just comment or say Hi. Lake Central was founded by Roscoe Turner who was born in 1895 fell in love with aviation in 1913. He wanted to be an Army pilot in WWI, but was turned down because of his lack of education. After discharged he did begin to fly old surplus aircraft and became a barnstormer, followed by a career in air racing. He was very flamboyant usually seen with a manicured mustache and holding his pet lion cub Gilmore. Later in life he received the Distinguished Flying Cross from the U.S. Government for his achievements in aviation. He went on and filed to start a new regional airline Turner Airlines. Later it became Lake Central Airlines. Purdue University was also involved with the new Lake Central. Lake Central flew Beech Bonanzas at the beginning, but added easy to find and well maintained Douglas DC-3s from larger airlines like Braniff, Eastern, TWA, and Northeast. It's home was Weir Cooke Airport in Indianapolis, Indiana. Over the years there were attempts of a takeover by Hal Carr and his North Central Airlines. It probably made a lot of sense since Lake Central route structure was painfully short, and driving was sometimes an attractive alternative. The fleet continued to grow with many more DC-3's and even one Curtiss Commando C-46 for cargo. As routes matured Lake Central chose the recently retired United Airlines Convair 340s to increase seats on prime routes. Later pressure was on to replace the aging DC-3 fleet. They were the last regional to fly the "Gooniebird", while some regionals were going jet power with the million dollar Fairchild F-27, and even jets like Mohawk with the BAC-111. In an effort to modernize Lake Central turned to a new product from Aérospatiale Aircraft of France. The Nord 262 was a improved version of the Max Holste MH.250 Super Broussard, and powered by two Turbomeca Bastan jet-prop engines. This choice made a lot of sense since the 262 was smaller and less expensive than the F-27, yet it featured things the DC-3 didn't have like pressurization, radar, jet prop power, and tricycle landing gear. Americans view of Europes aviation manufacturing was very positive with United flying the popular, reliable and attractive French Caravelle Jet. The downside was the crews weren't exactly happy with the type, but that just got worse. There were a couple of engine explosions on the ground, one involving a passenger losing a limb. Things got so bad some of the retired and disassembled DC-3's were reassembled and placed back into action. To make matters worse Lake Central was the authorized seller of the type in North America. Later the 262 original engines would be re engineered by Turbomeca Bastan and continue on as the Nord II or re powered with Pratt & Whitney 298 turboprop as the Mohawk 298. With the new engines the plane proved to be a winner and following life right into the Allegheny Airlines years with a new purple livery with gold text. Lake Central followed other airlines by converting their Convairs to jet-prop power using the General Motors Allison 501D engine. That engine had proven itself in the C-130 Hercules, and later in the Lockheed L-188 Electra II (after flaws were corrected engine mounts to wing design). Now Lake Central would join the likes of Frontier, North Central, and Allegheny and convert their 340's to the jet powered Convair 580. This certainly made a lot of sense too. With public opinion quite low after the Nord 262 incidents, the new 580 would make good headlines. Poor Lake Central, not long after the conversions one was lost over a field in Ohio. All were killed as the Allison engine came apart. Later it was discovered an error in heat treating (or lack of) caused the fatal crash. Here Lake Central was the victim of two engine related accidents. Some of the blame was put on Lake Central's maintenance, but most of the blame was clearly the engine manufacturers. Later flaws in other 501D engines were found on the other carriers 580 fleet, but corrected before any accidents. Boeing proposed that Allison provide the pure jet engines for the 727. I've heard rumors that Eddie Rickenbacker (Eastern's President) said after the Electra II he would reject any Allison powered 727. Pratt & Whitney got the contract. In 1968 Allegheny Airlines acquired Lake Central. After that they acquired Mohawk Airlines and the named changed to USAir. All three are part of USAirways history. Werner Lindquist (pugman1948, LLC)
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  • pekka12400 said:

    British Commonwealth Pacific Airline BCPA

    Posted: 6:33 AM PST, 7/1/2014

  • mokulele173 said:

    My favourite is Civil Air Transport. It is so difficult to find in e-bay and in general searches. I would love to see 1/200 scale CAT Convair 880 (The Mandarin Jet) and DC-6B (The Mandarin Flight) models produced. How about it Hobby Master, Gemini or Herpa?

    Posted: 11:29 PM PST, 4/16/2013

  • mercurydave said:

    Heartwarming story, especially about flying on Lake Central when you were a boy. I did the same thing with Allegheny and Lake Central. I love the old local service airlines, always have. Their DC-3s, Martins and Convairs did add a lot of color to larger airports. Lake Central is my fav but Allegheny, Central, and Trans-Texas are close seconds. Dave Nichols

    Posted: 11:14 AM PST, 10/16/2012

  • 5np909 said:

    After 40 years in the same job but with 5 name changes the shortest time was the 18 months Air West existed before Howard Hughes bought them. They had the first of what was later called the Euro-White color schemes among with representations of the four areas they flew. These of course, carried through in schedules and promotions. Very colorful indeed and the maps show the evolution into Republic and Northwest also most was gutted by then.

    Posted: 10:45 PM PST, 10/2/2012

  • [Anonymous] said:

    Some of my favorites have been Texas International and National Airlines, which were odd since I grew up in Michigan. Anyway I still remember as a kid in the 1970s, before I could get any TI timetables, I'd go to the library and copy out by hand TI's full schedules from the OAG. That's how obsessed I was. Thanks for a wonderful question, Werner!

    Posted: 10:00 AM PST, 2/19/2012

  • pugman1948 said:

    Was it a LC DC-3? A very interesting salute to a good friend. Werner

    Posted: 8:20 AM PST, 12/13/2011

  • reilysouth said:

    my neighbor, near sunbury ohio, capt. jim wilson, used to fly this aircraft at low levels over my farm, i am on the j.d. tractor and he would dip his wings at meLeave Comment Here

    Posted: 11:03 AM PST, 12/6/2011

  • Cargojock said:

    I must say that Lake Central Airlines is my favorite too! I collect all of the airlines (including commuters) that make up the modern US Airways,but the airline I have the most interest in is Lake Central Airlines. I like them because they flew within Ohio, I wish I could of flown on them like Werner did....I was born in 84, so wayyy past my time! I also have lived in Ohio my whole life....along with that I have a keen interest in the Nord 262! I also collect Trump Shuttle memorabilia too. I have an old LCA life vest that I got with the o2 container still attached! LCA has a very interesting history! The Nord was one of the nails in the coffin for LCA....also as stated by Werner the crash of flight 527 over Marseills, Ohio, it would of been cool to see a 737 in LCA colors!

    Posted: 7:28 PM PST, 1/31/2011

  • larsogkirk said:

    It must be SAS, I grew up very close to Copenhagen airport, so all my childhood is closly connectet to SAS. And I have been flown with SAS since 1971, where I flew with one of the most beutyful planes the DC8-63. Best regards Lars Kirk

    Posted: 10:35 AM PST, 1/31/2011

  • airvirginiaproud said:

    My favorite airline is Air Virginia. She was based in beautiful Lynchburg Virginia and flew Metro's from Albany, NY to Jacksonville NC.I had the good fortune to work for her at beautiful Dulles.I am terribly biased toward the smaller commutter airlines of the 70's and 80's.

    Posted: 6:38 PM PST, 11/20/2010

  • quink99 said:

    In reading your Blog today, 07/14/2010, it just occurred to me that I failed to answer a question you asked me on 10/15/2009. You asked what I flew when with United. The following is a more or less complete answer short of digging out my log book which is in storage at this time. I began on the DC-6 in 1964 and finished on the B747-400 in 1989. in between I flew in various seats on the DC-7, B727(-100, -200), DC-8(-21,-52,-61, and -62), DC-8F, DC-10 (-10, -30), B747 (-100, -200, SP), B757 and B767. Regards, Quink99

    Posted: 11:08 AM PST, 7/14/2010

  • pugman1948 said:

    Robin Johnson wanted me to pass this along. G'day Werner On your site there is a post from Dick Roth. Could you please pass the following on to him - You may already know all this, Dick, but in case it's any help - There is no reference to Zimmerly in any of my Air Guides - very far from a complete collection!. The only reference I've swwn is at http://www.timetableimages.com/i-uz/zimmeri.jpg and http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/el.htm which have no aircraft picture at all. My earliest Air Traffic Guide, which later became the OAG, that refers to Empire is May 1946. That Empire was based in New York state, and had disappeared from the listings by the Nov 46 issue, where the new Empire Airlines is listed as commencing interstate service between Spokane and Idaho Falls with Boeing 247-Ds on Sep 18th. By July 48 they are operating DC-3s. But you probably knew all that. Best wishes! Robin Johnson

    Posted: 7:22 AM PST, 5/23/2010

  • Dick Roth said:

    I'm looking for information and pictures of Zimmerly Airlines (headquartered in Idah) that became Empire Air Lines from about 1946 until 1952 when Empire merged with West Coast Airlines. Zimmerly flew Cessna Airmasters at first, then ex-Canadian Pacific Boeing 247-Ds that were lettered in the new Empire Air Lines livery when Zimmerly moved from an interstate carrier (Idaho) to an intrastate carrier in 1946. The name Empire Air Lines was derived from the geographic "Inland Empire" region covering parts of the states of Idaho, Oregon and Washington. Empire Air Lines acquired four new DC-3s in 1948, replacing the old Boeing 247Ds and eventually one more DC-3 prior to the merger with West Coast in 1952.

    Posted: 11:45 PM PST, 10/31/2009

  • pugman1948 said:

    Thanks Quink99, What did you fly when with UAL?

    Posted: 9:46 AM PST, 10/15/2009

  • Quink99 said:

    Mine would easily be Trans Texas, and Bonanza from an historical point of view and United because I flew for them for twenty five years.

    Posted: 4:14 PM PST, 10/12/2009

  • pugman1948 said:

    Robin, I didn't know you had been employed by BOAC. Thanks for your memories of the BOAC Connie flights. Love those cool round porthole windows! Werner

    Posted: 7:30 AM PST, 8/26/2009

  • rerj37 said:

    I suppose my favourite airline to collect is the old BOAC, now absorbed in British Airways. My first long flight was aboard a BOAC Constellation from England to Jamaica as a schoolboy in 1951: we stopped at Lisbon, Santa Maria, Gander, Bermuda and Nassau. The only place where other aircraft were on the ground was Gander, then a frequent refuelling stop on North Atlantic flights. At Kingston, Chicago & Southern and Avianca also flew Connies at the time, and Pan Am flew Convair 240s. KLM and BWIA also operated there, and I got fascinated by the airline business. I made three return trips from London between 1951 and 1953, the latter two in Boeing Stratocruisers skipping Lisbon and the Azores. I did not start collecting timetables until later, when I was working for BOAC myself. By this time, my family was living in Washington DC, and I was using passes to fly on various airlines between New York and DCA. I would go to airline offices and airport counters to pick them up, and this started the collecting habit.

    Posted: 6:10 AM PST, 8/16/2009

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