Have you tried a TREELESS SADDLE yet? $139.00 Introductory Price NEW and Different!!!! Black suede Treeless Spanish War Trail Pleasure English Western Horse Riding Saddle Black Sueded Leather Thick fleece underside No tree...very flexiable to fit most horses Seat measures 16" inside cantle to inside pommel saddle measures total 24" length by 19" width Seat is ridged with rolled tufted rows..see the photos Stirrup fenders are removeable Stirrups measure 35" in length and are adjustable Off Billets included as seen in photos Weighs only 17 lbs or little less CALL to pay by credit card 847-428-2252 M-F 8am-3pm CST USA Very cushy!!!!!!! This saddle is not recommended for horses with protruding back bones, nor to be used for roping. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us.Contact Me View My Other Items For Sale Visit My eBay Store SADDLESNSTUFF View my blog: saddlesnstuff.blogspot.com